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Motiv Raptor Talon Bowling Ball - WWRD 12/12/12


Motiv Raptor Talon Bowling Ball - WWRD 12/12/12

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Motiv Raptor Talon


  • Color: Gray/Black
  • Coverstock: Fusion Solid Reactive
  • Weight Block: Predator Asymmetric
  • Factory Finish: 2000 Grit Sanded
  • Flare Potential: High
  • Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.46
  • Differential (Diff): .060
  • Intermediate Differential (Mass Bias): .015
  • Description:
    Built specifically to dominate on fresh heavy oil, the Raptor Talon is a monster. This is a lot of ball!

    The Raptor Talon features the proven low RG Predator core, which is an asymmetric beast having a .060 primary differential and .015 intermediate on the 15# model. The core revs easily and produces massive track flare.

    The Raptor Talon encases the Predator core with our new Fusion Solid Reactive shell, which comes out of the box with a 2000 grit sanded finish. It starts to hook in the oil and does not stop. There is no quit in this ball! The power through the pins is incredible!

    Make no mistake... this ball is built for oil. Tournament bowlers will find this weapon very useful on higher volume patterns. League bowlers that are rev-challenged or have high ball speed will appreciate what the Raptor Talon can do for them on a fresh house shot.

  • Product Rating: (5.00)
    ratings.date  3/6/2013
    The Raptor Talon features the proven low RG Predator core, which is an asymmetric beast having a .060 primary differential and .015 intermediate on the 15# model. The core revs easily and produces massive track flare. The Raptor Talon encases the Predator core with our new Fusion Solid Reactive shell, which comes out of the box with a 2000 grit sanded finish. It starts to hook in the oil and does not stop. There is no quit in this ball! The power through the pins is incredible! Review: The New Raptor Talon by Motiv will give ANY bowler all the hook they can handle!!! This thing flat out hooks from start to finish! My Raptor Talon is drilled 55X4.5X50. This ball needs oil and unfortunately I dont not bowl in a house where I get to throw my Raptor Talon to often unless I play the extreme inside part of the lane. However, I have gotten the chance to throw it on some longer and higher volume sport compliant conditions and I must say I was very impressed!! This ball makes it very hard for me to over throw through the break point because its always trying to hook and the ball never stops. I love it! Its one of the only balls I have ever thrown on fresh shark where I felt I could keep my normal ball speed (17-18) and still have no problem getting the ball to recover in the backend. Theres a reason Bowling This Month gave the Raptor Talon the highest hook rating ever with a 57!!! This ball is simply a hook monster! IF you need a ball for heavy oil then look no further than the MOTIV Raptor Talon! Check out my Raptor Talon on a typical house shot condition! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrGBuImbTDg Get MOTIVated!!!!! Thanks! Bobby Middleton Jr MOTIV Staff Member www.motivbowling.com

    ratings.date  2/21/2013
    Looking for Hook. The Motiv Rapton Talon is an excellent ball for heavy oil and fresh house shots. With the Predator core this ball has a very easy to read continuous reaction. The ball reads the lane early allowing you to move inside and play the middle of the lane on a fresh house shot. It easily gets through the heads which is especially beneficial on wood lanes. This ball has tremendous pin carry allowing you to score higher. I have used this ball on various conditions from a medium oil pattern at 41 foot and a heavy oil pattern at 45 foot and on both wood and synthetic surfaces. I am right handed and throw the ball at 17mph. I use the Motiv Power Gel Scuff to keep the ball clean and ready to react at all times. Not only have I had great success with this ball but my customers have also. I have drilled this ball for various styles of bowlers. I have bowlers that have struggled to hook the ball now have all the hook they wanted. Other bowlers can now play an inside line and count on the hook they desired to crush the pocket. If you want a ball that hooks then this is a great choice. Thank you Motiv for another excellent ball. Bronson Schalizki “Motiv Staff Member” www.motivbowling.com

    ratings.date  2/19/2013
    Talk about hook, talk about the Raptor Talon. This ball is an absolute animal on heavy oil. MOTIV’s intent with the release of the Raptor Talon is just that, a ridiculous amount of hook! In fact, Bowling This Month gave it the highest hook rating to date. This ball also looks sweet with its black and grey color with silver and yellow Neo-Marks. I have drilled two Raptor Talons to date. The first Talon I drilled 40 x 4.5” x 60 (pin out of ring finger, hole on P3). This ball is very versatile depending on the surface I choose to use on it. At 2000-4000 I can use it on a majority of fresh oil patterns. Taking the surface down to 500-1000 its cover stock strength is revealed and it will hook a bunch more! The second Raptor Talon I drilled was 50 x 4.25” x 70 (pin under ring with a big shift and a hole down on P3) and this is by far the strongest bowling ball I have ever put into my hand. In comparison to other bowling balls in the MOTIV line, the Raptor Talon will cover the most boards on the lane. In contrast to the other Asymmetrical balls in the MOTIV Line, the Raptor Talon hooks much earlier and gives the bowler a strong yet controllable reaction. Stop by your local pro shop and get MOTIVated! Here is a link to my Raptor Talon in action: http://youtu.be/0xkSMFxrkNg

    ratings.date  1/21/2013
    Raptor Talon Ball Review My information: Ball Speed:15mph average .Rev Rate:285 average. Axis Rotation:45 degrees. Axis Tilt: 15 degrees. Ball Specs Information Core: Predator, Type: Asymmetrical, Coverstock:Fusion Solid Reactive RG:2.46 15 lbs, Diff: .060 15lbs, Int md diff:.015 15lbs Colors: Grey/Black with yellow and white logos Surface of ball tested:OOB 2000 grit sanded. Drilling of ball tested: 60 X 30 @3 ½” P3 x-hole 2” deep. Lanes tested:Synthetic First off.This ball is as adverstised,an oil monster.Unless you have a ball speed of over 20 mph,keep it off dry lanes. I used the Raptor Talon on a 42’ heavier oil sport pattern during a tournament. When the 2 Cruel never bit early enough,the Talon really bit in the midlane. I used the Talon all 9 games for the tournament. The Raptor Talon uses a lot of energy in the first 2/3 of the lane.The Talon really starts it’s heavy roll as soon at it meets the lane. During the tournament the early roll in the heads and midlanes was a plus.It enabled me to have some room for error if I missed at the bottom of the swing.On this longer and heavier volume pattern,the Talon had a very smooth arcing motion at the breakpoint.The response to the friction was fast. During the first 3 games I lined up at 16/7/5.The Talon really shined . It helped me control the lane.I could miss right and still have the ball recover.This recovery help loosen the swing,knowing that you could miss and still get the ball back to the pocket. When the lanes started the transition stage during 4-6,All I had to do was Move about 5/3/2 which put me around 21/10/7.Now I had oil for hold And more friction to the right to create bumper area.Which really helped the pin carry.Now I had extra entry angle to the pocket. When the lanes opened up on this pattern,during games 7-8,I just moved 4/2/2 left which put me at 24/12/9.I just kept the ball in the oil and increased my speed.The buffer to the right gave me all the area I needed. The Talon was all the ball I needed.Early roll,great midlane revs,and a heavy roll at the breakpoint.But no over-reaction at the breakpoint. This ball will help speed dominate and rev challenged bowlers when they encounter heavy oil. On a 42' house shot that is blened,the Raptor Talon worked great inside the oil line.Just chase the oil and it works great.But during the middle of the third game this ball starts to be too much.This is were the Primal Scream came into play. Overall this ball is a plus for me.Especially when I find oil. I can see the speed and rev challenged using this ball on oilier house shots. Angela Wlit/AKA MOTIV GIRL MOTIV Staff member http://www.motivbowling.com/products/balls/raptor-talon.html http://www.motivbowling.com/products/balls/raptor-talon.html

    ratings.date  1/17/2013
    Raptor Talon With a HOOK rating of 57 by BTM the expectations for this ball were very high. A tall order to say the least to meet those lofty rating numbers..the highest ever posted. The thing to keep in mind is that Hook doesn’t always mean –Go Left young man- Hook means the ability for a ball to consistently read and react under the oiliest of conditions, the ability for a ball to grab the lane and not skid past the break point while still retaining energy to knock down ten pins. On most typical house shots he who can throw it right scores!!! This ball goes beyond that by leaps and bounds as it’s a MONSTER in the oil. Even on the heaviest of patterns it provides the ability to read and react. The Raptor Talon can provide you with that extra advantage you need early on when you need that extra traction. The talon allows me the ability to continue to play areas of the lane on heavy oil conditions where other mid to heavy oil balls would not. Trust me when I say this ball hooks..but don’t expect it to go directly left because that’s not the shape it was designed for!!! If you got oil the Talon is the ball for you! Rick Zakrajsek Motiv Staff Ohio www.motivbowing.com

    ratings.date  1/13/2013
    Lane Condition: 40ft THS on Brunswick ProLane Medium-Heavy Volume Layout: 5” x 5” 65 x 5” x 40 If you need a ball that has no problem finding the friction through even the heaviest of volumes, look no farther. The Raptor Talon is the newest addition to Motiv’s line that gives you unparalleled control in oil without sacrificing any hitting power going through the pins. The new Fusion Solid cover stock (finished at 2000 grit) combined with the aggressive Predator core (2.46 RG, .060 Diff) creates a very strong, early motion. I laid my Talon out a bit on the weaker side based on my (happy) experience with the Raptor P7. Even with this layout the core is very strong and perfectly complements the aggressive nature of the coverstock. The moment I release this ball I can see it trying to gain traction on the lane. The midlane motion is very pronounced; the white and yellow logos make watching this ball flare extremely easy. While the backend is understandably smooth and controllable, the power through the pins is nothing short of amazing. To date there have been no issues about this ball hooking on any pattern I have thrown it on. Raw hook is what the Motiv Raptor Talon is all about. Shred the lane! Trent Overbey In the Zone Pro Shop Motiv Staff www.motivbowling.com

    ratings.date  1/10/2013
    Motiv Raptor Talon Free Hook is here! The biggest ball in the Motiv arsenal is a must have. The ball that will allow you to play deeper than anyone else on the lanes…the new Raptor Talon. This ball loves oil. I have personal never seen a ball that can read and react in oil like this one. This ball has tons of hook, but very controlled hook in an arcing motion. I drilled two of these and so far have had a lot of success, especially on high volume patterns. The first one I drilled was 80x5.5x50 and the second one is 70x3.5x45. The 1st one really gets through the heads very clean and then makes a big controlled move to the pocket, without being “jumpy” even when the ball hits the dry boards. The 2nd one is very strong and hooks early for me. I love that on heavy volume I can play straight and get the ball to hook when others can’t, and also when they transition I can get left of everyone else. On the other hand, this ball does not like the dry. But is Mr. reliable when you need to trust something to get back to the pocket.

    ratings.date  12/4/2012
    If you’re reading this review, you’re probably aware that the MOTIV Raptor Talon hooks a lot…. this is very true. But what I want to emphasize is the controllability of the hook, due in large part to the nice big arcing ball motion. But I am most impressed with the carry this ball gives me. I feel like all I need to do is get the Talon in the general vicinity of the pocket to strike. High hits seem to trip the 4, and light hits shred ‘em. This kind of confidence really frees up the old armswing. I drilled my Raptor Talon with a pretty tame layout (60* x 6” x 40*). I’m planning on drilling up a second Talon more aggressively, just to have a little fun. For me the Talon is at least 5 boards stronger than the original Raptor with the same layout. Here is a link to my ball reaction video. I compare the Raptor Talon to the Venom Strike, 2 Cruel and the original Raptor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tynvySUpDh4 I have a pretty high rev rate (420) in relation to my ball speed (17mph). So, I do need a pretty good amount of oil in order to use this ball. On long “Sport” patterns the Talon allows me to play deeper… in the fresh oil. As all tournament players know, it’s generally an advantage to play just to the left of your opponents (For right handers). I like to take advantage of that whenever I can. My check list during by 10 minutes league practice right now is pretty simple. Is there enough oil to use the Talon? Yes? Then I use it! If No, then I’ll pull out my Venom Strike, Primal Scream or Ascent. I can’t always use the Talon, but it’s comforting to know that it’s at the top of my arsenal when needed. If you happen to be more speed dominant, this is a “must have” ball, and you’ll want to throw it all the time. --Kevin Gallagher— PBA Member MOTIV Staff

    ratings.date  12/4/2012
    I am thrilled to have the Talon in my bag. It is a tremendous asset for me personally as I am a speed dominant bowler. The Talon grabs the lane extremely early and anchors itself hard in the mid lane. The majority of this ball's reaction occurs in the first half of the lane which sets up for a smooth, controlled breakpoint. I can use this ball longer than most people can because of my physical game and I love the shape it makes. I prefer arcing bowling balls with a lot of overall hook and this ball certainly fills that gap for me. Obviously, the best environment for this piece would be heavier volumes of oil unless you throw hard, then you can also pull it out on medium environments. I had a lot of success with the Talon on Scorpion, NCAA Pattern #2, and PBA Viper. I have even used it on certain occassions on Cheetah when I want the ball to burn up and stop at the backend. What makes this ball so special is also its demise. It is a very conditional piece because of its aggressive nature. Don't even think about taking this one out on anything less than medium oil. It will most likely burn up and not continue through the pins. I throw quite hard and realistically I only know of one bowling center where I could regularly throw this monster. Even with a good coat of polish and weaker drillings it will want to check up too soon. Use it on the appropriate conditions and you'll be quite satisfied. The Raptor Talon along with my Primal Screams cover a broad range of patterns that I will encounter. They are without a doubt my personal favorites! For more information please visit www.motivbowling.com -Darren Andretta, MOTIV Staff, Vise Inserts Staff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtugVptfaOg&feature=youtu.be

    ratings.date  11/26/2012
    Raptor Talon – 3 3/4 X 55 X 65 MOTIV’s current goal is to release bowling balls that will be able to provide bowlers with an arsenal of equipment to combat all conditions. Description: The Raptor Talon is the third Raptor being added to the high-performance range. The Raptor Talon uses the same Predator core as the previous two Raptors, but with the all new Fusion Solid Reactive coverstock. Reaction: The addition of the Raptor Talon has filled MOTIV’s slot for a very early revving heavy oil ball. The Raptor Talon is best suited when everything else is too clean in the front or middle part of the lane. It allows you to keep a ton of ball in your hand yet maintain control throughout the entire lane. At the box finish (2000 grit sanded) I found the ball to be most effective for the intentions of the ball. Adding polish made the Raptor Talon similar in length to the original Raptor (4000 Grit Sanded), yet the Raptor Talon maintained a higher hook potential because of the strength in the front and middle part of the lane. I didn’t experiment with adding more surface to the Raptor Talon as the box surface started the ball plenty soon! Comparisons: The Raptor Talon is obviously MOTIV’s biggest hooking ball. However, even though you may currently think you don’t need more hook, the Raptor Talon brings much more than just hook. It brings a lot of power and a lot of control. In my video you will see that the original Raptor is played a few boards right at the arrows and has a more defined backend motion. The Venom Strike is even further right at the arrows, although not as continuous as the Raptor Talon. I think it should also be noted that those who really like there Thrash…The Raptor Talon will be the Thrash’s BIG BROTHER. Summary: The Raptor Talon is not going to be a ball for me that will see a lot of league action, but will be the first ball I choose to put in the bag for tournaments. I can see the Raptor Talon seeing a lot of time on tougher patterns and looking forward to throwing it on some heavier conditions when most are struggling to get the lane to open up. YouTube Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM-NB1MoTjM&feature=youtu.be MOTIV Staff Member - Mike Magolan

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